WHO ARE YOU VOTING FOR IN 2019 (uk)
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@Duffy Haha, this is actually hilarious. Not only are you gate keeping as fuck (btw. you aren't even studying political science, so maybe you should shut the fuck up about this too?), I guarantee you that I know more about Brexit than you do. I don't need to live in the UK to understand what's going on. Clearly if you cared at all about having an honest argument you wouldn't be employing all these fallacies. But of course this is the only way you can defend the Conservatives.
It's really easy to find clips of Corbyn being very vocal about his pro worker stance (such as this). I wouldn't care if he was a multi millionaire as long as he actually means what he is saying and is willing to get his policies passed.
Now please watch this little speech of Boris from 2013 (relevant section is from start to ~4ish minutes), where he admits that British people seem to be more lazy than Europeans because they don't want to accept 48 hour work weeks. One of his proposed solutions here is destroying the welfare state to force people to work more. Please tell me how that is in any way shape or form a policy that should appeal to working class people. Also tell me how many of the totally real people you talked to would be happy about a 48 hour week because without a proper minimum wage 40 hours a week aren't enough to pay for their rent/etc. and there is no welfare state to help them out.
It's really easy to find clips of Corbyn being very vocal about his pro worker stance (such as this). I wouldn't care if he was a multi millionaire as long as he actually means what he is saying and is willing to get his policies passed.
Now please watch this little speech of Boris from 2013 (relevant section is from start to ~4ish minutes), where he admits that British people seem to be more lazy than Europeans because they don't want to accept 48 hour work weeks. One of his proposed solutions here is destroying the welfare state to force people to work more. Please tell me how that is in any way shape or form a policy that should appeal to working class people. Also tell me how many of the totally real people you talked to would be happy about a 48 hour week because without a proper minimum wage 40 hours a week aren't enough to pay for their rent/etc. and there is no welfare state to help them out.
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This is getting juicy.
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so who am i voting for again
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SNP
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I don't understand why you are posting about economic freedom here implying that this is the most important thing and indicates a good economy. But this is contradicted immediately by your own sources saying that California is the least free in the us even though it is clearly one of the best off states in the US.
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@Fredy What makes you the expert on Brexit then? Also political science is the theory behind politics, whilst the one I'm studying focuses on the real world aspect, you know, like the very thing we're talking about?
Thanks for the Jeremy Corbyn video, it even says in the description "Labour are back as the party of the working class". Literally proves my point that labour had abandoned the working class because, or why else would they be 'back".
You don't know everything, again all of your knowledge on the UK and Brexit has been taken from news and media. You're no better than me claiming to be a historian because I watch the History Channel and play Call of Duty. Quite pathetic and a bit sad really.
Oh and btw if you want to start pointing out the flaws in the working week, perhaps start with your comrades idea of a 4 day week https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/50405068
Anyone who lived or has family members that lived in the UK in the 70s will know the state Britain was in under Labour. But hey free internet am I right guys.
Literally half of the Shadow cabinet have said ridiculous things, from Thornberry mocking a white van man and his flag, to Dianne Abbot who claims west Indie mums love their kids more than white mums and thinks Mao did more good than harm. Or what about McDonald signing the letter to abolish MI5?
Not gonna debate someone who clearly doesn't know their stuff. Go out into the real world, do some academic studies relating to it then come back
Thanks for the Jeremy Corbyn video, it even says in the description "Labour are back as the party of the working class". Literally proves my point that labour had abandoned the working class because, or why else would they be 'back".
You don't know everything, again all of your knowledge on the UK and Brexit has been taken from news and media. You're no better than me claiming to be a historian because I watch the History Channel and play Call of Duty. Quite pathetic and a bit sad really.
Oh and btw if you want to start pointing out the flaws in the working week, perhaps start with your comrades idea of a 4 day week https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/50405068
Anyone who lived or has family members that lived in the UK in the 70s will know the state Britain was in under Labour. But hey free internet am I right guys.
Literally half of the Shadow cabinet have said ridiculous things, from Thornberry mocking a white van man and his flag, to Dianne Abbot who claims west Indie mums love their kids more than white mums and thinks Mao did more good than harm. Or what about McDonald signing the letter to abolish MI5?
Not gonna debate someone who clearly doesn't know their stuff. Go out into the real world, do some academic studies relating to it then come back
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@Inchs During the canvass you come across people from both sides of the argument. There's no point canvassing just on those who agree with you otherwise who'd you be convincing?
of course I have a opinion on it, but that doesn't cloud my judgement when it comes to academic work. You cant let it otherwise you'd simply not pass university
of course I have a opinion on it, but that doesn't cloud my judgement when it comes to academic work. You cant let it otherwise you'd simply not pass university
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@Duffy You are so fucking pathetic. The entire time you attack me using ad hominems rather than my points.
And you are doing this while always bringing up your great anecdotes of totally real people you have talked to and generalize it to the general public. If you knew anything about how to actually reason you'd know how flawed that is. Anyone can bring up some stupid anecdotes and claim anything. Maybe you should go out and do some academic studies and then come back to me.
The entire time you are just sidestepping arguments that I made because you are presumably unable to respond adequately so you have to resort to these pathetic measures.
My knowledge doesn't just come from news and media. I actually read up on how the EU works and what the benefits/downsides of it are, what the economic consequences of leaving are, etc. Honestly fuck off with this, you are the one who was at one point claiming that the American civil war wasn't mostly about slavery and you are trying to lecture me on this shit, you don't even know the topic you study at uni sufficiently well and yet you think no one other than you posseses the knowledge to discuss anything about politics.
Either way, it is clear you are not a good faith actor, just like conservatives your only strategy to win is through pivoting, lying and manipulation so I doubt there is any point continuing this.
And you are doing this while always bringing up your great anecdotes of totally real people you have talked to and generalize it to the general public. If you knew anything about how to actually reason you'd know how flawed that is. Anyone can bring up some stupid anecdotes and claim anything. Maybe you should go out and do some academic studies and then come back to me.
The entire time you are just sidestepping arguments that I made because you are presumably unable to respond adequately so you have to resort to these pathetic measures.
My knowledge doesn't just come from news and media. I actually read up on how the EU works and what the benefits/downsides of it are, what the economic consequences of leaving are, etc. Honestly fuck off with this, you are the one who was at one point claiming that the American civil war wasn't mostly about slavery and you are trying to lecture me on this shit, you don't even know the topic you study at uni sufficiently well and yet you think no one other than you posseses the knowledge to discuss anything about politics.
Either way, it is clear you are not a good faith actor, just like conservatives your only strategy to win is through pivoting, lying and manipulation so I doubt there is any point continuing this.
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California was republican ran until 1992.
They were 14th on the index in 2005 and now it's 33rd, the difference in score between the least free state and freest state is like 5-10 percent anyway, not a big difference.
Besides the point though. I was showing Inchs how the so-called "democratic socialist" countries still respect private property and are thus Social Democracies.
I must now continue reading my book, I have an exam tomorrow, thanks for your time, and have a nice day.
They were 14th on the index in 2005 and now it's 33rd, the difference in score between the least free state and freest state is like 5-10 percent anyway, not a big difference.
Besides the point though. I was showing Inchs how the so-called "democratic socialist" countries still respect private property and are thus Social Democracies.
I must now continue reading my book, I have an exam tomorrow, thanks for your time, and have a nice day.
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