Why most people do not RP

[Butterman561]

Ok so I wanted to start a fight club with my org members and do some more passive RP since we're getting bored of just shooting cops and it being cops v robbers. So at first when I initially started the fight club it wasn't really organized and it was just open windows and a medic then cops arrived complained about it we boarded the windows we did 1 fight cops breach as soon as a body fell then we got arrested by Alan Erwin and Bob Bill got a 5y 5k ticket.

After that a mayor was elected we got permission from the mayor he even broadcasted it, organized it with a casino owner so there would be bets, got the medic on standby with his defib charged it was properly organized but Alan Erwin and Bob Bill still complained and just sat outside our door knocking instantly when they heard a body fall.

People complain that RP is dead and that no really roleplays it's just a shooting server, at this point, I can see why when you try to RP you get shut down instantly. When you have cops enforcing the laws as Black and White they only see it as someone must get punished for a law they break and just ignore the fact that it's RP and not allowing fighting rings because they "break law 9.1" is retarded when there is organized boxxing and fight clubs in real life.

 

[flux]

When has anyone RP'd on the server before? Unofficial eSport as stated.
4:3 and 400DPI and you're essentially welcomed to the club, 16:9 and whatever DPI and you are obviously cheating.
GLHF.

 

[CensoredExe]

I remember running a fight club once, ended the exact same way. I also remember going to one once as a cop, and trying to preserve RP by making it ‘legal’, having a medic on standby etc, being safe, but then someone who outranked me came over and forced myself and other officers to arrest everyone.
idk what the ‘fix’ for this is, but I’d recommend cops try and get more involved in this RP, without just arresting people.

 

[flux]

When have cops ever RP'd? They shoot on sight if you're a male and black.

 

[Erwin]

As a cop, your job is to make sure people dont break the law, you broke the law so i arrested you. At first, we wanted to just speak to you and you spewed insults at us, escalating the situation. We did tell you to stop, you didnt so we charged you. It was incredibly mingey.

 

[Deleted member 5577]

You could just... put the life alerts away and not have the mayor break the rules?

 

[Kenty]

The fight club @CensoredExe is on about is where I became a back to back 4 time heavyweight champion.

It was a proper organised one within mqueewes (IDK how to spell it.) we had audiences and betting going on with medics on standby, it ended up being a shitfest in the end which is expected when you run an illegal fighting ring.

You can't put the cops at fault because its their job in game to prevent it, you are doing the most unoriginal RP that still involves some sort of combat, this is not passive RP. I ran a casino yesterday/a sketchy casino with tables to play poker and a 50/50 table for rolls and I had people coming, as much as I loved some of the company, people were not organised and just ran in and out as if it was a base. I'm going to carry on running these types of large scale casinos because there needs to be something that people can do to just chill out and all.

 

[flux]

What's new?

 

[Sorle]

i mean let's be real here: a legal fight club with the excuse of "medic on scene so its safe" is horribly unrealistic - we're aiming for roleplay to be realistic & reflect how scenarios would play out in the real world, not just any roleplay that seems fun - otherwise we'd have a bunch of roblox reject wolf demon black butler characters running around being edgy and killing people with fire ice shoe on head magic for a laugh -- however I still think that you should just let this type of thing slide, let people have their fun

a certain thing i've noticed with the behaviours of a good amount of cop mains - NOT APPLICABLE TO ALL PEOPLE/SCENARIOS, AS IS THE CASE IN REAL LIFE - there's a certain complex where they will feel the need to forcibly take control of a situation by any means necessary, which shows very strange parallels to the real life issue with a lot of people who go on to be police officers - they feel a need to have some amount of control in some area of life as they feel like they lack it elsewhere, resulting in acting out & decisions that seem unfair, unjustified, or just straight up poor - in perp this can often take the form of excessive spiteful mass reporting, passive-aggressiveness, and situations like this where no one is harmed & everyone is having fun yet they intervene and ruin it

obviously people partaking in such things will hide behind the wall of realism in roleplay however at the end of the day, perpheads is a server on a GAME - a game is made with the intention to have fun, if you source fun from ruining the fun of others with no gain to self you're clearly experiencing other insecurities & a sense of lacking control in other areas of life therefore you make up for it through online avenues

or maybe i'm just a wannabe psychologist reading way too much into peoples actions so i can write paragraphs on a game forum because i have nothing better to do, who knows

 

[Xeronise]

How is unrealistic? There are literal sports which are designed around the idea of fighting until a knockout, we are playing with the tools we are given, we organize it to simulate a boxing event as much as possible. Surely this is the way it would play out IRL as well?

 

[Sorle]

i mean if you simulate all the regulations, safety assurances, venues, equipment, and brain damage that come with pro boxing then i see no issue

this was just a bare knuckles fight club with the best safety precaution being a doctor stood in the corner, as far as i can tell

 

[Xeronise]

/desc fist marks on head

 

[Bnjemann]

> Fight club
> Passive rp
Pick one.

Nothing screams pacifism like beating in someone's head in a cage amirite? The first rule of fight club is DONT TALK ABOUT FIGHT CLUB! If you want to start a fight club, you do it secretly and spread the word amongst selective people. Although I applaud you for actually starting an ACTUAL role play situation as opposed to just building a ghetto roundabout and calling it "Roleplay".

After that a mayor was elected we got permission from the mayor he even broadcasted it, organized it with a casino owner so there would be bets, got the medic on standby with his defib charged it was properly organized but Alan Erwin and Bob Bill still complained and just sat outside our door knocking instantly when they heard a body fall.

The mayor cannot allow legal exceptions for breaches of the Paralake Penal code. You shouldn't even have paramedics on standby as they are government officials. If you want to properly organise a fight club it will have to be an underground thing. Have rules that say that once you're low HP, you give up, if people don't forfeit when they're about to die then that's there own fault. Throw their body in the back of a van, drive it somewhere else and stage an accident so you can get that person revived.

If its supposed to be a legal boxing club then cops shouldn't intervene really as all "Victims" are consenting. If people start fucking dying though expect police intervention.

Cops ruining fight clubs is a bit shit I strongly agree, But again its against the law and technically realistic in a sense.

My solution: https://perpheads.com/threads/boxing-glove-item-for-fight-club-roleplayers.43695/

 

[lamby]

Reason why the cops were hungry for some good ol' cuffing was because you did it in a Business Store in the Bazaar, so the cops can pretty much hear whatever you do.

Try and do it somewhere in the office for example, so no-one can hear the fight going on and you won't get people ruining your " role-play ".

 

[lamby]

McUwes.

Just so you know for next time. c;

 

[CensoredExe]

" the excuse of "medic on scene so its safe" is horribly unrealistic - we're aiming for roleplay to be realistic & reflect how scenarios would play out in the real world "
While I agree with this, perp is a video game, let people have fun, let cops have fun by joining in and RPing instead of playing prisoner transport simulator.

A side note, perp isnt very realistic, how is a fight club not realistic but then there's a gunfight every few seconds, doesn't seem too realistic? I think RP needs to be noted in relativity to PERP, this is a game, people like to relax, people also like to roleplay, seriously or not, you have to remember this is a game, its never going to be as realistic as real life, and if it was, no one would play.

@Kenty also mentioned that cops are just doing their job, which is also completely right, however, I don't see how "regulating" and monitoring the event would be doing their job too?
This type of RP is the core reason people played on the server, especially back at the peak of PERP.

Also, this isnt me saying the cops did wrong, I think they did their jobs as trained to do so, but I would think that this kind of RP can do no harm and think that *maybe* some consideration should be done as to whether it's necessary to shut down these types of RP.

 

[Dr. Dräjj]

Because roleplay is boring and shooting cops is fun ^^

 

[Sorle]

yeah I absolutely agree with the sentiment that we should just let people have their fun, just trying to play devil's advocate more than anything

 

[Sorle]

@Tomo

 

[Dr. Dräjj]