Criminal Roleplay is a joke

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Alright, another rant. It seems only fair that criminal RP gets the criticism it deserves as well.

It feels like the average criminal has drifted heavily towards the absolute worst kinds of behaviours for roleplay. All they do is wait until they have a reason to KoS you, without considering any actual roleplay, then they pull up in a supercar with a rifle and blast you down where you stand. It's lazy and boring. I get that you want the sweet org combat xp, but please, be more creative with the things that you do. You might have more fun.

Additionally, most of the high end orgs just have no class or roleplay to them whatsoever. Organisations are treated as clash of clans clans protecting each others bases or whatever instead of actually contributing to roleplay in any way. Why do the "special" forces do what they do? What meaningful personality seperates them from the "Paralake Ballas" or the "hoodrats", apart from the clothes they wear? How do they interact with each other outside of raiding? Usually just very petty or boring insults. There's no class, and certainly no attempt to create fun roleplay.

As soon as anyone in a given org gets a reason to kos cops, that whole org will just pull up and start shooting, causing large scale shootouts that usually lead to everyone dead, or another one down the line when the PD attempts to apprehend them again. Again, no roleplay whatsoever, just criminal orgs farming combat xp. Hostage situations are frankly a joke. Often times people assume because they have a hostage they are completely safe and cry in OOC when it doesn't go their way. Hostage situations are not initiated from a desire to roleplay a hostage sit, instead to further their goals in breaking out friends or stalling to shoot cops.

If anyone loses a raid (in general, but moreso on crim,) then they will scour their knowledge of the rules to find one little thing that the other party did wrong and then beg for a refund request on their $20,000 gun while they have $4,000,000 in the bank and a fully upgraded super car.

I was visiting a lovely roleplay church hosted by @Cody Sharpe, and during that time he talked about how he had been mugged or shot while trying to operate, and it really made me sad. It seems that a lot of criminals do not want to engage in any kind of meaningful RP, and instead will mug anyone who even steps over the arbitrary boundaries outlined in the mugging map, or raid those who don't.

It makes the server feel dead when everbody plays like this, because they're either hold up in a base hiding from cops, growing, or in situations that the average onlooker cannot interact with without being in violation of the rules.

People also forget that, you can just lie to cops? you don't have to leave the guy who you shot in the head for dead, you can call cops, lie, knowing that unless witnessed by a government employee they have no solid evidence, and then go about your day. Instead, people choose the very boring option of running away and shooting cops.

I've demonstrated to a few people now that good roleplay is not dead, you just have to be open to find it. I used the analogy "accept every sidequest" last night, and I think it is fitting. Go along with a lot of stuff, be mindful of being mugged and don't immediately jump to shooting people. It works wonders for the quality of experience you will have interacting with other players. You don't have to make money to have a good time, and indeed, being ok with losing things and sometimes surrendering to police is fine. @Caveric Jonson and @Oddy can probably attest to the hijinx I have gotten up to recently, and I had a lot of fun being arrested / trying to talk my way out of things with them.

TL;DR: do better criminals, be funnier and less greedy.
 
Criminal roleplay is mainly a problem because of how long people have been playing it. Anyone that plays criminal roleplay for long enough loses all will to roleplay criminal activities. They only care about not breaking the rules and maximizing profits. Why shouldn't they, though? Criminal roleplay is the only guaranteed method to make a lot of money fast. Government jobs are a joke, and criminal roleplay is so annoying because of the fact that barely anyone wants to play government jobs but new players and hardcore roleplayers that only play one specific government job.

Government jobs need to be buffed by at least doubling the salaries and employee capacity when there isn't a mayor online. I guarantee that you'll see more roleplay this way. Otherwise, criminal roleplay will stay the same. Nerfing crim will do nothing as it is still better than farming 30 hours on PD to make what I make in 1 hour as crim.
 
@Caveric Jonson and @Oddy can probably attest to the hijinx I have gotten up to recently, and I had a lot of fun being arrested / trying to talk my way out of things with them.
Calm down Mrs. Clamwater lol. I honestly really enjoyed your various RP situations. I really think crim mains should take a couple lessons from you. It was a very pleasure experience over the couple of hours we had dealt with you.
 
This embodys hoodrats
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Thing is i agree in certian aspects the sweaty nerd ruin it, however it been like this for longer then i probs been around, The reason i put them clips up there is to show that even beneath what people see there still moments to be had, I know for hoodrats the way I even got into the org back in V5 was they where basing in slums 1, and they invited me in and made a whole meeting, I done something simuler when me and @Oddy went and made a side org before v6 came out, where I brought tyla jai into a emptyed bussness shop and done a contract meeting to ask for exlusive partnership, things like this I know hoodrats do quite often, However the sweatier side of things its just shooting shooting reload shoot, Its gets plain, there needs to be a activity in a simuler vain to chopshop where you can do things that is not just shooting.

I agree hostage situations are a complete waist of time in all honesty, I hate the nade ones like bruh your taking the piss
 
This embodys hoodrats
PcpUx1r.png


Thing is i agree in certian aspects the sweaty nerd ruin it, however it been like this for longer then i probs been around, The reason i put them clips up there is to show that even beneath what people see there still moments to be had, I know for hoodrats the way I even got into the org back in V5 was they where basing in slums 1, and they invited me in and made a whole meeting, I done something simuler when me and @Oddy went and made a side org before v6 came out, where I brought tyla jai into a emptyed bussness shop and done a contract meeting to ask for exlusive partnership, things like this I know hoodrats do quite often, However the sweatier side of things its just shooting shooting reload shoot, Its gets plain, there needs to be a activity in a simuler vain to chopshop where you can do things that is not just shooting.

I agree hostage situations are a complete waist of time in all honesty, I hate the nade ones like bruh your taking the piss
half the shit in this montage would get me banned
 
If the rulebook wasn't so generalised and opinion based that I have to be shitting my pants every 2 seconds so I don't break 2.5 (because every single staff member has a different opinion on it) maybe criminals would be willing to actually roleplay more!

The rules have literally never been so rigidly defined as they are today.
 
The rules have literally never been so rigidly defined as they are today.
Yet if someone doesn't like you enough and they deem your roleplay "too negative" they can ban you for it. Half of the rules restrict roleplay because "I have to value my life" and this or that staff member has deemed I didn't value my life or was too negative. Why should I risk creating more opportunities for roleplay when more often than not someone will say its a rule break while the other doesnt????
 
I get u, however im talking about a bigger picture kinda deal like things we do and diffrent from others, it seem all people want to do is shoot thats what im getting at, again i get what ur saying tho.
 
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