@Caveric Jonson
i respect that the anecdotal evidence provided is most likely valid grievance from a perspective of that play style. But when the approach of “most of the time it’s the crims shooting first and it’s their fault, so my point stands,” ends at just that without regard for the other perspective then that is called Confirmation Bias and it’s a form of illogical and emotional argumentation. Logically, someone who plays cop almost always wouldn’t deal with the fair share of grievances crim mains and may not understand truly what it’s like. To deal with the stress and looming fear of being shot for trying to roleplay taking a hostage as a criminal, etc..
There is a whole other perspective to consider in that case and a lot goes through people’s heads from the criminal side of things. One primary problem for example from the perspective of crim mains is it’s simply a fair point and a valid grievance to complain that if the criminal does not do anything beside hold a hostage, they will always have their hands forced or be killed without regard for a lazy win unless they shoot first.
I think it may be just an objective fact everyone can agree on is that the current attitude towards Hostage situations is that It’s kill or be killed sadly and there is no rules or regulations for ensuring a standard of quality in roleplay is upheld.
From my perspective when I try to be as objective and unbiased as I can at this time, as someone who has played both sides mainly before over the years, it seems to me that there is a lot more both sides could be doing if we all want to accomplish role play where we don’t shoot all the time in hostage sits.
depending on the person’s play style and which side of the coin they are mostly on, they will form a Bias.
They also probably complain about the bad aspects and feel as if the other side could be doing more. Its important to acknowledge how the other side feel and that’s okay. Because, it’s not intuitive to reject the validity of the other sides’ grievances also.
Now, If the point made is that “it’s mostly the fault of criminals because I’ve seen mostly crims shoot,” then I am sorry to say that’s purely emotional, shallow and a biased deflection of shared fault based purely on only one perspective with complete disregard for the other perspective. This sort of point is nothing short of illogical and ignorant
Criminal mains can use their own fair share of anecdotal evidence to also form this kind of of an emotional argumentative approach where confirmation bias is weaponized to blame shift onto one side which is harmful towards reaching a fix that satisfies both sides.
A more pragmatic solution probably involves an approximately equal impact upon both sides to be held to a higher standard regarding hostage roleplay through a a change in the way rules apply rather than simply condemning one side.
TL/DR : It’s not only the fault of crim mains or cop mains, both sides can do better. A rule change could probably do good to regulate a better experience for everyone who’s into RPing hostage situations.