my dispute: a footnote

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note; this thread is for discussion of the topics brought up, please dont chat shit and let's have a constructive conversation about these issues.

So, my dispute was accepted-ish (wherein it is acknowledged the ban reason does not reflect my actions in the slightest,) and my ban was lowered, all good right? No, not really, because the issues surrounding this ban once again highlight the glaring inconsistencies surrounding getting reported on duty.

The reponse to my dispute was as follows:



I don't know about any of you, but to me the justification for upholding the ban was for use of excessive force as an officer. Usually this would have been dealt with via an IA complaint but as it was already dealt with administratively (under a completely different understanding of the circumstances,) it was decided to only lower the ban to a week.

I'm just pointing out, I've been banned for a week for excessive use of force as an officer, something that is supposed to be dealt with by IA.

My initial ban reason was for 2.5. However, I don't see how stopping a chase initiated by another user is excessively negative. I used tools that I had in RP to deal with an already escalated situation. What I did was completely viable within the rules. I concede that it may have been excessive force but if there wasn't this blatant misunderstanding of the situation from the initial moderator I contend I would not have been banned at all, and an IA would have been made instead.

Basically what I'm trying to say is, it wasn't excessively negative, it was excessive force. The response to my dispute sounds way more like a response to an IA than a ban dispute and I think this whole thing is a fucking shitshow of inconsistent staffing.

Good day sir

 
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Don't act like an idiot and you won't be treated like one. You need to stop acting as if you're innocent, the only thing you do as officer is minge around, I personally find it funny but if you are going to be a minge, expect to be treated like one. Just to be clear, I am not against that, I just have the brain power to realise that you will be treated as you act. The staff team have never once claimed they treat all situations equally in fact I remember Senior staff always insisting each ban is different due to background ect. You were banned for what would probably be a verbal warning at most majority of time but due to your bad behaviour is a ban as you clearly show no regard to other people's enjoyment.

TL : DR: Don't complain you're treated the way you act.
 
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did you even read the post? Its quite clearly targeted since if any other user was put in the same situation it would have gone to an IA complaint. Staff aren't supposed to "treat you how you act" because they are supposed to be unbiased and enforce the rules equally.
 
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@John Daymon So I can't talk about bans because I was banned ages ago? I am not saying don't get banned, I am saying don't act surprised when you're treated how you're acting, I speak from experience.
 
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As long as I can remember, the staff have always increased times on the rule break/issue with you if you have a bad record whether that be bans/warns or not even recorded at all. If you don't understand what I mean, look at my latest ban, I was banned for disconnecting after being shot down (My death was absolute bullshit because apparently, 5 confirmed rifle shots to the back of an officer does not kill him) but the punishment was worse because I had consistent bad conduct in OOC. tl:dr if you act like an idiot/dick a usual short ban may become a long one. It has been done many times before.
 
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Considering you didn't actually kill him it's a fucking meme you are still stuck with the weeklong ban. The guy you shot ran over a cop and proceeded to flee in front of 6+ cops all with guns drawn while unarmed. He should've been done for 3.4, and for all you knew he was yeeting into slums gas station to pull a gun. Seems like staff are grasping at straws to me. If they wanted to ban you for your trolling then they should put it in the reason, but changing the reason just to deflect blame and avoid admitting fault is dumb.
 
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Seriously your ban is a joke.

Firstly I'd like to point out that the person who you killed tried to kill an officer, quite obvious he should be shot down because he's a threat to you and the other officers, this executes rule 2.5 as it seriously has nothing to do with this
Players may not excessively impact the experience of others in a negative manner, unless the actions are a proportionate escalation of negative actions that have been performed against the original player.

For example, it is not acceptable to:

Intentionally mug and targeting new players.
Destroy valuable items due to basic distaste such as product prices.
Killing a player over verbal insults, minor or accidental actions.
Killing a player after mugging them because they’ve seen your identity.
Intentionally steal a car to wreck it without any valid reason.
I can't see anything in this rule that your ban goes under, first time I'm actually going against administrator’s discretion, your ban is a pile of shit.

If @Cole wants to explain your whole ban and go in by detail why you're banned i'd beg him to.


the furry who got exrobite banned, fuck you seriously it's a joke you even reported it, i'll be sure to point out every single rule i see you violate and make an AR or a report about it.
 
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fun fact: You just qouted the rule 2.5 in your post then threatning the AR maker

"the furry who got exrobite banned, fuck you seriously it's a joke you even reported it, i'll be sure to point out every single rule i see you violate and make an AR or a report about it. "

that you gonna report every violation. That sounds like you gonna sit on his neck and watch him all the time till he does something wrong and wanna instant get him banned lmao ?.

Chill out people can report if they FEEL LIKE someone broke a rule.

At the end its up to the staff to accept the AR or not so you shouldnt blame the player honestly. Atleast a problem gets sorted out.
 
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@Sorle nah im not on any body team but i still find it stupid that he got banned for IA thing. I just found it funny that he qoutes the rule then threatnen somebody wich then he breaks the rule xD
 
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OwO, WHATS THIS,

A AR HANDLED BY ONE OF THE PEOPLE WHO REVIEWED MY BAN??? COULD IT BE?


Opening fire on unarmed, fleeing suspects isn't a matter for IA you say? Big thinks

I'll let the staff team sum it up

 
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All this over a one month ban, I just don't get it. The ban isn't even that long to be honest. If you was completely innocent then yes, fair enough, you deserve an explaination. Now I can't say too much about the situation as I have no interest nor am familiar with the situstion, but making a thread like this just seems like you are trying to get everyone to cause an uproar.

Again, I am not speaking about the ban in question, more of what you are attempting to start in terms of a keyboard war over a ban that isn't even permanent or half year and over.

Your appeal was also accepted and has been reduced to a month yet you still felt the need for this?
It has also slighty bothered me that you felt the need to put a disclaimer at the top which roughly translates to: "If you don't support me and my opinion on my ban then don't post"

Now I can't say anything about you as a player as I don't think I have been around you much but this whole thread is just unnecessary.
 
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Dumb argument;

  • You get wrongfully charged with an account of trying to evade cops and trying to run them over.
  • Your friend used your vehicle to evade cops.
  • You were sleeping alone at home at that time so you have no alibi
  • Your friend ditches your car at your house
  • 3 hours later cops show up at your door, and you're arrested
  • The cops their bodycams prove you didn't attempt to run them over and they were lying, but fails to disprove that you were the person who evaded.
  • Your original sentencing gets lowered from 5 years for attempted murder and evading to 1 year
"You can't complain because your sentencing was lowered"
what about the wrongful sentencing in the first place? lmao
 
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it's a well known fact that the staff team are fucking shit and have no clue what on earth they're doing half the fucking time.

i speak from experience, but that's my opinion anyway.
 
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I do not see the punishment given to my defendant @Exrobite , as just, this is usually dealt with by The defendants actions were also justified by law.

Let us look at 2.5:



"Not excessively impact the experience of others in a negative manner."

Let us look at "excessive":


was it excessive?
And did it really change the outcome?
Let me answer both of these questions your honour.

  1. No, it definitely wasn't, the plaintiff brought it upon himself by running away.
  2. No, the plaintiff would've been taken into custody either way.
"unless the actions are a proportionate escalation of negative actions that have been performed against the original player"

Did the plaintiff negatively affect the defendant @Exrobite his experience by his previous actions?

  1. Yes, he certainly did by running away, and breaking 3.4.
Therefore I must request the judge to review the case again and come to the correct decision which is:
 
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